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It seems that Nintendo and 54 other gaming companies have had enough as Nintendo and friends have now filed a lawsuit with the Tokyo District Court.

They are filing the lawsuit on the following grounds of Unfair Competition Prevention. Nintendo has requested Marketing, sales and importing of the devices cease immediately.

In a statement released today, Nintendo announced that these R4 devices "allow illegal uploading from the internet", adding that "it is causing severe damage to our company and software makers, and this is something that we cannot possibly overlook." Nintendo then went on to say it is hurting the game industry as a whole.

Here is a list of companies joining Nintendo in the lawsuit.

Arc System Works
SNK
Capcom
Koei
Jaleco
Square Enix
Sega
Taito
Takara Tomy
Tecmo
Hudson
Bandai Namco Games
The Pokémon Company
Yukes
Level Five

Please Note This Will Only Affect R4s in Japan but could soon be worldwide

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http://kotaku.com/5030319/nintendo-and-54-companies-battle-evil-r4-in-court

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Tsunamo
Kudos: 591
Mates: 31

Raven6666 said: I think the R4 site has been taken down due to this legal battle, if anyone here can read Chinese, please translate a few of the things from the error site that comes up.

Let's stock up on Flach Carts before they become legally "extinct"(that, and they could skyrocket in price, making the DS one of the worse consoles to own, Give us some slack, you don't see Sony taking legal action against companies that upload, although they somewhat support the downloads as the PSP literally asks to be cheapened out.)

Didn't read previous post, looks like the R4 is officially DEAD!!!!!!!

(Now what'd be the best cart to buy for useful features and a decent price?)

just use google translator
4 days ago
The World Ends With You
W.A,Perth
Sumguy0
Kudos: 393
Mates: 21
hehehe...

lucky i got a TTDS and Acekard 2 ^^
4 days ago
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, The
New South Wales, Sydney, Bonnyrigg
trinest
Kudos: 207
Mates: 12
Good old Nintendo, while the R4 is a good card, they are targeting stuff which is like so last year.
Get with the times.
6 days ago
Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Raven6666
Kudos: 271
Mates: 15
I think the R4 site has been taken down due to this legal battle, if anyone here can read Chinese, please translate a few of the things from the error site that comes up.

Let's stock up on Flach Carts before they become legally "extinct"(that, and they could skyrocket in price, making the DS one of the worse consoles to own, Give us some slack, you don't see Sony taking legal action against companies that upload, although they somewhat support the downloads as the PSP literally asks to be cheapened out.)

Didn't read previous post, looks like the R4 is officially DEAD!!!!!!!
(Now what'd be the best cart to buy for useful features and a decent price?)
6 days ago
Sydney
slicingman
Kudos: 979
Mates: 34
Nintendo shouldn't win! the R4 itself isn't bad its what people "CAN" do with it that makes it "a bad thing". if Nintendo would release a mp3 card dohicky that plays movies and maybe runs useful homebrew, then I'm sure R4 sales would drop. (but not for me i have given 3 to mates in the past couple of months ).

I'm probably gonna buy a slot 2 supercard soon since R4 have stopped developing firmware. I'll use my R4 for music and movies.
6 days ago
Esperance, Western Australia
Tsunamo
Kudos: 591
Mates: 31

insidious said:

Tsunamo said:

insidious said: i woulda kept buying my games if they were cheaper.. game prices are too bs expencive.. so i wish the best of luck to r4.. though they wont win.

ditto good thing there not gonna discontinue the cyclo ds because thats what i got and i love it



i feel sorry for em though.. they are a small company trying to make a buck, which they have made quite a few thousand of those bucks im sure , but i dont see that in the end it has really affected nintendo sales that much. for every 1 person that buys an r4 theres prob about millions more that still buy the games.. i would still be one of them but like i said too expencive.

EDIT: not to mention having to wait months later for a game the yanks had those months earlyer.. its the same language why do we have to wait? i understand with ntsc and all that but ds games that have no regions cept japan and usa? cmon.

exactly the reason alot of people do it
6 days ago
The World Ends With You
W.A,Perth
AchooChoo
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Mates: 7
Don't think so mate. As if they're going to make the games cheaper. If they're not making games cheaper now because of the competition with R4, it's likely going to change that when they make R4 obsolete.



G-Ramsey said: yay! no more hackers and homebrews to screw up everything for me. if the R4 goes away then there is a good chance that nintendo and many other company games will be cheaper.

6 days ago
Sydney
insidious
Kudos: 1,028
Mates: 38

dossaer said:

insidious said: and dossaer you make a very good point. although you cant stop people uploading illegal files on the net. you may stop a few but for every few you stop more come in.



Exactly, but if they (Ninty et all) want to take a swing at someone it might as well be the people that are facilitating the illegal activity. In much the same way that the music industry (via various recording artists associations) went after file sharing sites like kazaar.



true that.
6 days ago
Sydney, NSW
dossaer
Kudos: 967
Mates: 41

insidious said: and dossaer you make a very good point. although you cant stop people uploading illegal files on the net. you may stop a few but for every few you stop more come in.



Exactly, but if they (Ninty et all) want to take a swing at someone it might as well be the people that are facilitating the illegal activity. In much the same way that the music industry (via various recording artists associations) went after file sharing sites like kazaar.

6 days ago
LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga
Sydney, NSW
insidious
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Mates: 38

G-Ramsey said: yay! no more hackers and homebrews to screw up everything for me. if the R4 goes away then there is a good chance that nintendo and many other company games will be cheaper.



even with r4 gone theres like 20 other brands out there selling the same type of cards.

and getting cheaper wont happen.. i remember gameboy games used to be $20 then it became $50.. that was before any of these style cards and cartridges ever came out.

and dossaer you make a very good point. although you cant stop people uploading illegal files on the net. you may stop a few but for every few you stop more come in.
6 days ago
Sydney, NSW
dossaer
Kudos: 967
Mates: 41
To weigh in on this 'debate'...

I'm a core gamer, I have purchased every game that I play.

As hard as it may be for some people to believe, I have also purchased an R4 for homebrew and for my own interest in programming. The only games that my R4 plays are games like Doom, Quake and Lemmings (thank the gods for Lemmings!) All free licences.
The R4 is not the culprit here, it's the users that are doing the wrong thing. It's like blaming a knife manufacturer for stabbings that occur.

IMO it's the File sharing sites that host illegal content that should be targeted.... and perhaps attacked by surfing ninjas!

6 days ago
LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga
Sydney, NSW
G-Ramsey
Kudos: 1,472
Mates: 49
yay! no more hackers and homebrews to screw up everything for me. if the R4 goes away then there is a good chance that nintendo and many other company games will be cheaper.
30/07/2008
Pokemon Pearl
Where the fish are. :3
Eldude
Kudos: 4,512
Mates: 50
If everyone just used them for homebrew like myself then there would not be a problem.
29/07/2008
Hannah Montana: Music Jam
Kingdom Come
insidious
Kudos: 1,028
Mates: 38

adommer said: You do know that r4 has changed to N5 or something also does this affect all flash carts or just r4/N5. Because i'm getting my EZ flash cart soon.



just get it its not like they can stop you once you have it.. and its only r4 atm.
29/07/2008
Sydney, NSW
adommer
Kudos: 2,606
Mates: 260
You do know that r4 has changed to N5 or something also does this affect all flash carts or just r4/N5. Because i'm getting my EZ flash cart soon.
29/07/2008
Pokemon Pearl
Sydney, NSW
viperz
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Mates: 263
Its world war 3
29/07/2008
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days
Some where on earth on the southern hemisphere on a country called australia in state called New South Wales In A City Called Sydney in the west of that city in a place called tregear
insidious
Kudos: 1,028
Mates: 38

Tsunamo said:

insidious said: i woulda kept buying my games if they were cheaper.. game prices are too bs expencive.. so i wish the best of luck to r4.. though they wont win.

ditto good thing there not gonna discontinue the cyclo ds because thats what i got and i love it



i feel sorry for em though.. they are a small company trying to make a buck, which they have made quite a few thousand of those bucks im sure , but i dont see that in the end it has really affected nintendo sales that much. for every 1 person that buys an r4 theres prob about millions more that still buy the games.. i would still be one of them but like i said too expencive.

EDIT: not to mention having to wait months later for a game the yanks had those months earlyer.. its the same language why do we have to wait? i understand with ntsc and all that but ds games that have no regions cept japan and usa? cmon.
29/07/2008
Sydney, NSW
Tsunamo
Kudos: 591
Mates: 31

insidious said: i woulda kept buying my games if they were cheaper.. game prices are too bs expencive.. so i wish the best of luck to r4.. though they wont win.

ditto good thing there not gonna discontinue the cyclo ds because thats what i got and i love it
29/07/2008
The World Ends With You
W.A,Perth
insidious
Kudos: 1,028
Mates: 38
i woulda kept buying my games if they were cheaper.. game prices are too bs expencive.. so i wish the best of luck to r4.. though they wont win.
29/07/2008
Sydney, NSW
salsasero
Kudos: 1,137
Mates: 36
I pay for my own games via legitimate means. No stealing!
29/07/2008
Sydney
jofra01
Kudos: 1,966
Mates: 17

spyke said:

jofra01 said:

spyke said: "allow illegal uploding"...do they even know what the R4 does? it doesnt upload. you download. lol



That's from Nintendo's mouth not mine as I know what it does.

They probably meant that it encourages people to upload games so others can download.

I know it was nintendo, i understand what quotation marks mean. and no i dont agree that it encourages uploading. every console scene uploads....no because the r4 is there lol



ok then lol but targeting just one won't stop the others unless the R4 dominates the Jap markter more than others.
29/07/2008
Trauma Center: Under the Knife 2
Brisbane
spyke
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Mates: 36

jofra01 said:

spyke said: "allow illegal uploding"...do they even know what the R4 does? it doesnt upload. you download. lol



That's from Nintendo's mouth not mine as I know what it does.

They probably meant that it encourages people to upload games so others can download.

I know it was nintendo, i understand what quotation marks mean. and no i dont agree that it encourages uploading. every console scene uploads....no because the r4 is there lol
29/07/2008
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, The
Aussie-Nintendo Fastest News Copier [opps thats someone else]
jofra01
Kudos: 1,966
Mates: 17

spyke said: "allow illegal uploding"...do they even know what the R4 does? it doesnt upload. you download. lol



That's from Nintendo's mouth not mine as I know what it does.

They probably meant that it encourages people to upload games so others can download.
29/07/2008
Trauma Center: Under the Knife 2
Brisbane
spyke
Kudos: 1,045
Mates: 36
"allow illegal uploding"...do they even know what the R4 does? it doesnt upload. you download. lol
29/07/2008
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, The
Aussie-Nintendo Fastest News Copier [opps thats someone else]
Dante_10
Kudos: 3,687
Mates: 111
Wow... Nintendo have Back-up
29/07/2008
Sydney, NSW
jofra01
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Mates: 17
Nintendo should clearly win.
29/07/2008
Trauma Center: Under the Knife 2
Brisbane
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