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DSi Incompatible with Current Flash Cards?

If you're into the homebrew scene you may want to think twice about purchasing a Nintendo DSi or at least keep your current DS to play all your favourite homemade creations. 10 different slot-1 flash cards have been tested on the Nintendo DSi by hacken.cc and all ten failed to be compatible.

The popular R4 flash card failed to automatically launch (which it is programed to do) and then did not appear at all in the DSi main menu. The EZ Flash V (which is not programed to auto launch) did show up in the menu, but then produced an error message when attempting to boot the card. Any solutions such as if flash card prevention can be turned off, or if firmware modifications such as FlashMe can work around the issue are yet to be determined.

The flash cards tested that failed to be compatible with the Nintendo DSi


  • R4DS
  • EZ Flash V
  • CycloDS
  • G6 DS Real
  • M3 DS Real
  • Supercard DS One
  • iTouch DS
  • FCard
  • NCard
  • M3 DS Simply
  • U2DS

The DSi Launches in Japan today, but be warned importers there is no English language option in the firmware.

Sources: gbatemp.net & hacken.cc

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kilodacow
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kilodacow says:  
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05/11/2008
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ICC_06
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ICC_06 says:  

SsbbTtpro said: it doesnt say its not compatible with the edge ds card!

w00t!



Yeah but they're all similar hardware, if these 10 don't work chances are none will
05/11/2008
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jons2ann
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jons2ann says:  

SsbbTtpro said: it doesnt say its not compatible with the edge ds card!
w00t!



It's already been tested with the CycloDS. What makes you think Edge will be any different?

Yasu has already succeeded creating a homebrew app for the DSi and it's only been a few days since its release. Although, what he's doing may not be illegal, Nintendo may be onto him.
05/11/2008
Taiko no Tatsujin DS Touch de Doko don
Clayton, Melbourne, Victoria
SsbbTtpro
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SsbbTtpro says:  
it doesnt say its not compatible with the edge ds card!
w00t!
05/11/2008
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K-Man
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K-Man says:  
HA! Another reason why i'm glad i bought the DS Lite!
04/11/2008
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brawl4all
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brawl4all says:  
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
They'd do anything to stop those guys!
03/11/2008
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Raven6666
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Raven6666 says:  
Considering a few of the flashcarts were designed to work with the GBA slot means you could circumvent the code that might rely GBA part, and perhaps it'll work, but since N is an actual company, they most likely would've thought of that. What I'm saying here is that the DSi might block the carts because the GBA slot is replaced with a chip which has instructions to block it.

I bet you, in under 2 years, if the DSi is not outphased, a decently working flashcart will be available.
-Comment went through two boxes because of the maximum character limit.
02/11/2008
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Raven6666
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Raven6666 says:  

salsasero said:I think more people are annoyed about not being dowloading games from whatever source, than the potential benefits from an enhanced DS handheld.
Nintendo has no responsibility legally or morally to assist people to download games.
That is the Law of the Land..



I never commented on what was annoying about it, I was saying how people would get past it eventually.
Looking at the speed of the development of the first DS flash-carts and the need to Flash the DS itself, that was from scratch and it took about 2 years for a smoothly working function to happen. Considering no-one would be in their right mind to stuff their DSi firmware up, that would force people to just open it, and find what makes it incompatible.

What I'm thinking would happen: Essentially modchipping the console itself, UNLESS Nintendo pretty much made the basic of the DSi to be flashcart compatible, and perhaps it's a chip with the extra instructions, either removal of the chip in question, or change to a different piece. Or perhaps some various other form of modification. But why bother, the DSi is pretty much a gimmick, I recall one of the statements answering the reason to the 0.3mpx camera size is supported by 11 filters, making it not so useless. The fact that it can only play a certain range of DS games also brings it away from the Gameboy style series(No GBA slot).

02/11/2008
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salsasero
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salsasero says:  

Raven6666 said: Once a DSi specific game can come out, that'll open up for flashcarting(literally and metaphorically), unless somehow they boobytrapped the cart. Either that, or someone will just open up their DSi (most likely has similar entry points) and try make the flashcart compatible.

DSi is very gimmicky though, 3kpx camera (or 0.3mpx) and 11 "filters", not to mention the sound manipulation for pitch/speed.

Considering Aus isn't getting it until late 2009 or thereabouts, they'd most likely have a basic flashcart made for it.



I think more people are annoyed about not being dowloading games from whatever source, than the potential benefits from an enhanced DS handheld.

Nintendo has no responsibility legally or morally to assist people to download games.

That is the Law of the Land..
02/11/2008
Sydney
jakliu100
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jakliu100 says:  
oh noes!!!!!
02/11/2008
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Immortal-J
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Immortal-J says:  
ahh man ><
well for some people they probably have 2 ds lite n could trade in there older ds lite for the DS-I =[
i wish i had 2 ds lite
01/11/2008
sydney
nyltiak
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nyltiak says:  
Bummer, but i'm something new will be released that is compatible.
01/11/2008
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insidious
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insidious says:  

Tsunamo said:

insidious said:

Tsunamo said: dont worry everyone someone will release a work around or invent custom firmware for the dsi it will be easy to do considering it has a sd slot also has anyone tried loading a ds rom on the sd card just out of interest?



that wouldnt work, nintendo would have that covered already, like they have with the wii

well i still see custom firmware coming and a piracy war coming



i do too as ive said on other posts based on this.
01/11/2008
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Tsunamo
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Tsunamo says:  

insidious said:

Tsunamo said: dont worry everyone someone will release a work around or invent custom firmware for the dsi it will be easy to do considering it has a sd slot also has anyone tried loading a ds rom on the sd card just out of interest?



that wouldnt work, nintendo would have that covered already, like they have with the wii

well i still see custom firmware coming and a piracy war coming
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insidious
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insidious says:  

Tsunamo said: dont worry everyone someone will release a work around or invent custom firmware for the dsi it will be easy to do considering it has a sd slot also has anyone tried loading a ds rom on the sd card just out of interest?



that wouldnt work, nintendo would have that covered already, like they have with the wii
01/11/2008
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Raven6666
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Raven6666 says:  
Once a DSi specific game can come out, that'll open up for flashcarting(literally and metaphorically), unless somehow they boobytrapped the cart. Either that, or someone will just open up their DSi (most likely has similar entry points) and try make the flashcart compatible.
DSi is very gimmicky though, 3kpx camera (or 0.3mpx) and 11 "filters", not to mention the sound manipulation for pitch/speed.

Considering Aus isn't getting it until late 2009 or thereabouts, they'd most likely have a basic flashcart made for it.
01/11/2008
Sydney
Tsunamo
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Tsunamo says:  
dont worry everyone someone will release a work around or invent custom firmware for the dsi it will be easy to do considering it has a sd slot also has anyone tried loading a ds rom on the sd card just out of interest?
01/11/2008
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insidious
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insidious says:  

ICC_06 said:

I bet there will be next to no DSi only games, sure a few will come out at first but then hardly any as they won't want to risk limiting software sales considering the DS/DS Lite have outsold the GBA now.



true that.. i personally think the dsi will fall hard.. i wont be getting one unless a dsi exclusive zelda comes out. that will be the only reason id buy it. but i highly doubt that will happen.
01/11/2008
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ICC_06
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ICC_06 says:  

Esoth said:

ICC_06 said:

DSi said: does anyone know if i purchase i dsi from asia, it will be compatible with australian purchased games????

... i have to make sure firmware is in eng-rish also!



Yep Aussie games will work on it, but you'll only be able to download Japanese DSWare games. I also believe from current reports there's no English option for the menu.



Um actually, when dsi exclusive games (games that are made for the dsi, not the ds) come out, they will also be region locked. so you can't play dsi games from here, but you can play normal (current) ds games.



I bet there will be next to no DSi only games, sure a few will come out at first but then hardly any as they won't want to risk limiting software sales considering the DS/DS Lite have outsold the GBA now.
01/11/2008
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Esoth
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Esoth says:  

ICC_06 said:

DSi said: does anyone know if i purchase i dsi from asia, it will be compatible with australian purchased games????

... i have to make sure firmware is in eng-rish also!



Yep Aussie games will work on it, but you'll only be able to download Japanese DSWare games. I also believe from current reports there's no English option for the menu.



Um actually, when dsi exclusive games (games that are made for the dsi, not the ds) come out, they will also be region locked. so you can't play dsi games from here, but you can play normal (current) ds games.
01/11/2008
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ICC_06
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ICC_06 says:  

Sumguy0 said: DSTT AND ACEKARD 2 STIL HAS A CHANCE!



They are all very similar hardware, if these all don't work I doubt any of the existing cards will work.
01/11/2008
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Sumguy0
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Sumguy0 says:  
DSTT AND ACEKARD 2 STIL HAS A CHANCE!
01/11/2008
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ICC_06
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ICC_06 says:  

DSi said: does anyone know if i purchase i dsi from asia, it will be compatible with australian purchased games????

... i have to make sure firmware is in eng-rish also!



Yep Aussie games will work on it, but you'll only be able to download Japanese DSWare games. I also believe from current reports there's no English option for the menu.
01/11/2008
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars
Adelaide / If you can read this you're not blind
DSi
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DSi says:  
does anyone know if i purchase i dsi from asia, it will be compatible with australian purchased games????
... i have to make sure firmware is in eng-rish also!
01/11/2008
Melbourne, Victoria
Luke4123
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Luke4123 says:  
I'm sure they will make another Flash Card that is compatible with the DSi.
01/11/2008
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jons2ann
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jons2ann says:  
Watch all the cry babies on gbatemp.net!

They praise the flash card and bash Nintendo.

EDIT: I love this comment... along with all the subsequent bashings.
"Can piracy EVER happen with the DSi? What will we do now? I THINK NINTENDO HAS OUTSMARTED US ALL!!!!"

"Nintendo outsmarted you with every system they have ever created. You're not the one enabling homebrew. You are insignificant like the rest of us. Get over it, shut the **** up, crawl back into bed, and wait until we know if homebrew is possible or not. You will be told, you will not ask."
01/11/2008
Taiko no Tatsujin DS Touch de Doko don
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