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Silence
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Savage is the perfect mix between FPS and RTS. Savage1 is free for PC, but the Mac one seems to have disappeared. Savage2 is a huge improvement.
2 days ago
Kingsbury, Victoria
desi
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To be fair I haven't played much of Oblivion (perhaps thirty hours) because of the silliness I mentioned earlier in that it felt too 'gamey'. It was made for an audience with a background in casual games and instant gratification games like World of Warcraft, and I have a background in unforgiving, open-ended and character-heavy RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons, Nethack and its variants, and Baldur's Gate. The silly number-crunching of Morrowind probably appealed more to my geekish tendencies.

But I can tell you that the biggest thing that ruins Oblivion is Fast Travel. If I ever decide to play it again I'm going to use a mod that removes Fast Travel. Also the absence of a clear and easy-to-use map system. The Oblivion map looks pretty, but it's way too difficult to use (the overworld map is on one tab, the area map is on another). With Morrowind I could simply zoom in or out to show as much detail as I needed, and I could even reduce the size of the map window and leave it open on the screen while I played, as a mini-map. That kind of thing alone put hours into the game because I'd spend days just walking around to fill in the fine details of the map (and hence discover secret caves etc.).
2 days ago
Sydney
ShuffleZ
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Its always the little differences that count isn't it?
I guess Morrowind then. Whats the latest one out?
2 days ago
Narre Warren! Melbourne, Victoria! also a Melbournian!
desi
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What do you mean the latest one? Morrowind came before Oblivion, if that's what you wanted to know. If you wanted to know patches, latest official is 1.2.0722, and the community has released an unofficial one.
2 days ago
Sydney
Silence
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In regard to what i said before, It turns out that Savage1 can now be downloaded for mac.
2 days ago
Kingsbury, Victoria
kaotic_azn
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yo mate use this site to see if any game works on your comp www.systemrequirementslab.com/ and its free and takes maybe 10 seconds to check
2 days ago
perth
ShuffleZ
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kaotic_azn said: yo mate use this site to see if any game works on your comp and its free and takes maybe 10 seconds to check


Ahh thanks man.

desi said: What do you mean the latest one? Morrowind came before Oblivion, if that's what you wanted to know. If you wanted to know patches, latest official is 1.2.0722, and the community has released an unofficial one.


Oh ok, i thought there was like Morrowind 1 and 2 etc.
1 days ago
Narre Warren! Melbourne, Victoria! also a Melbournian!
desi
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No, the entire series is called The Elder Scrolls series. First is Arena, then Daggerfall, then Morrowind, then Oblivion. There were two games before Morrowind, but they're more like spin-offs and not canon.

I've decided to bite the bullet and give Oblivion another try, just to be fair to it. Running it with a mod to entirely disable Fast Travel, to disable the compass markers that lead you by the nose to caves and mission objectives (so that I can explore and actually get lost), and a mod to stop enemies from levelling up with me so that I don't get to level 30 and find thugs and highwaymen wielding expensive Elven weapons.
1 days ago
Sydney
insectoid
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but then won't you be ridiculously overpowered?
1 days ago
Melbourne, Victoria
iamtom
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kaotic_azn said: yo mate use this site to see if any game works on your comp and its free and takes maybe 10 seconds to check


It's alright. Don't rely on it.
1 days ago
Ivalice, it's in a book somewhere. Try your library.
ShuffleZ
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Okay, so what is list of like good PC games to play?
I like pretty much any type.
Oh and I found Morrowind on eBay for $15. Good?
And me n my friend like to play games over the internet so what games could we play together like UT.
1 days ago
Narre Warren! Melbourne, Victoria! also a Melbournian!
desi
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insectoid said: but then won't you be ridiculously overpowered?


No. That same mod that stops enemy levelling also makes the game harder by raising monster levels, as well as by other means (like letting enemies use healing potions on themselves). I think not feeling powerful enough (when enemies level with you) is worse than being too powerful, because at least with the latter you can feel you have made some progress.

Besides, it's not that easy to level up in Oblivion. You go up a level when you have improved enough skills through use, not by experience points.

ShuffleZ said:Oh and I found Morrowind on eBay for $15. Good?


Bad. Plain Morrowind can be had for $10 from retail stores (Red Ant budget release).

I wrote you a list of good games earlier.

I'm not that big on multiplayer. For FPS I can recommend Call of Duty 4, the Insurgency Mod for Half Life 2, and ArmA in coop if you feel like being owned by your PCs. Titan Quest is a good coop RPG.

Also: It is utter pain to play Oblivion. I have had ten crashes in two hours, and my system is high end and I am not taxing it at all. It is like meeting a pretty girl who farts five times every hour: you really want to like her, but damn!
1 days ago
Sydney
ShuffleZ
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desi said:

No. That same mod that stops enemy levelling also makes the game harder by raising monster levels, as well as by other means (like letting enemies use healing potions on themselves). I think not feeling powerful enough (when enemies level with you) is worse than being too powerful, because at least with the latter you can feel you have made some progress.

Besides, it's not that easy to level up in Oblivion. You go up a level when you have improved enough skills through use, not by experience points.

Bad. Plain Morrowind can be had for $10 from retail stores (Red Ant budget release).

I wrote you a list of good games earlier.

I'm not that big on multiplayer. For FPS I can recommend Call of Duty 4, the Insurgency Mod for Half Life 2, and ArmA in coop if you feel like being owned by your PCs. Titan Quest is a good coop RPG.

Also: It is utter pain to play Oblivion. I have had ten crashes in two hours, and my system is high end and I am not taxing it at all. It is like meeting a pretty girl who farts five times every hour: you really want to like her, but damn!


LOL . just LOL .
Hmm Titan Quest seems interesting...
1 days ago
Narre Warren! Melbourne, Victoria! also a Melbournian!
desi
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Dear Zombie Jesus. I have crashed thrice in the last twenty minutes. That software could be released in this state — and still be unpatched a year and a half later, mind you — is categorical proof that there is no God. I much prefer that time I was hit in the groin by a paintball at 300fps. At least when that happened it was over quickly, and I could still go about my business and I could laugh about it later. Playing Oblivion, there is nothing to laugh about.

Enough of this torture. I can't believe this thing is even on my hard drive. It needs to be ripped from the world. I'm going to play some online Call of Duty 4.

I do highly recommend CoD4. But because I hate twitch games and like games that punish you when you mess up, I play in Hardcore servers only. In Hardcore mode you get no radar, there's no Killcam to show you where the dude was who just put rounds into you, and a player can be killed with one or two bullets. In normal servers it takes half a mag to kill someone with body shots, and that damn Killcam ruins any camouflaged shooting position you find.
1 days ago
Sydney
 
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